Comments on: Sweatless gui zhi types? http://www.junkyarddaoist.com/sweatless-gui-zhi-types/ Classic Formulas Wed, 11 Jan 2012 04:57:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Michael Max http://www.junkyarddaoist.com/sweatless-gui-zhi-types/comment-page-1/#comment-13 Michael Max Fri, 04 May 2007 15:17:27 +0000 http://classicformulas.com/?p=21#comment-13 Eran I don't think Huang's comments mean that we should not listen carefully to our patients. But, more that we should some clear ideas in our own minds about what we are looking for, and how to go about getting that information. My take on it, is that Huang is suggesting we use certain observable signs to indicate what might be happening for a patient. For example, dry skin, that is more rough than smooth, would lead us to think that this person does not sweat much. A person with delicate skin that is moist, we might infer they have palpitations or other gui zhi kinds of signs. As to the question of are some people gui zhi (herb), but not gui zhi tang (formula) types? My take on this is that if someone is a gui zhi (herb) type, they are going to benefit from a gui zhi family formula. It might be gui zhi tang, but depending on the symptoms and other problems, they might benefit from gui zhi fu zi tang, or gui zhi fu ling wan, there where were issues with cold, or blood stagnation. Maybe you would like to come to Nanjing this fall and study with Huang for 2 weeks? I'm in the process of pulling a class together! Eran

I don’t think Huang’s comments mean that we should not listen carefully to our patients. But, more that we should some clear ideas in our own minds about what we are looking for, and how to go about getting that information. My take on it, is that Huang is suggesting we use certain observable signs to indicate what might be happening for a patient.

For example, dry skin, that is more rough than smooth, would lead us to think that this person does not sweat much. A person with delicate skin that is moist, we might infer they have palpitations or other gui zhi kinds of signs.

As to the question of are some people gui zhi (herb), but not gui zhi tang (formula) types? My take on this is that if someone is a gui zhi (herb) type, they are going to benefit from a gui zhi family formula. It might be gui zhi tang, but depending on the symptoms and other problems, they might benefit from gui zhi fu zi tang, or gui zhi fu ling wan, there where were issues with cold, or blood stagnation.

Maybe you would like to come to Nanjing this fall and study with Huang for 2 weeks? I’m in the process of pulling a class together!

]]> By: Eran Pupkin http://www.junkyarddaoist.com/sweatless-gui-zhi-types/comment-page-1/#comment-12 Eran Pupkin Tue, 01 May 2007 12:27:00 +0000 http://classicformulas.com/?p=21#comment-12 Hello everybody, Thank you Michael, for asking Dr. Huang about the sweating issue in gui zhi type people. In my opinion, the more information I get from the patient, the better. If the questioning is done right, then the collected data could make a huge difference in my choice of differentiation, treatment strategy, and finding the right formula. So, I do rely on my patients and trust them for giving me information, and in order to not mislead them, I have to ask the right questions. About the skin issue, reality is more complex then textbooks, so the skin could be white in color, but not moist nor dry. Then if I will not trust or rely on my patients, I cannot really decide if there is excessive sweating or not. A problem...ah? Another question is about the definition of Dr. Huang regarding the gui zhi type. Does Dr. Huang refer to gui zhi TANG type or gui zhi the herb? Some people are gui zhi (herb) type, but not gui zhi tang (formula) type. Does Dr. Huang find difference in these two types? Last, the Master's degree program in Chengdu is 3 years, not 5. And you are more then welcome to visit me some more. The hotpot is on me! Eran Pupkin Hello everybody,

Thank you Michael, for asking Dr. Huang about the sweating issue in gui zhi type people.

In my opinion, the more information I get from the patient, the better. If the questioning is done right, then the collected data could make a huge difference in my choice of differentiation, treatment strategy, and finding the right formula.
So, I do rely on my patients and trust them for giving me information, and in order to not mislead them, I have to ask the right questions.

About the skin issue, reality is more complex then textbooks, so the skin could be white in color, but not moist nor dry. Then if I will not trust or rely on my patients, I cannot really decide if there is excessive sweating or not. A problem…ah?

Another question is about the definition of Dr. Huang regarding the gui zhi type. Does Dr. Huang refer to gui zhi TANG type or gui zhi the herb?
Some people are gui zhi (herb) type, but not gui zhi tang (formula) type. Does Dr. Huang find difference in these two types?

Last, the Master’s degree program in Chengdu is 3 years, not 5. And you are more then welcome to visit me some more. The hotpot is on me!

Eran Pupkin

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